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Buddhism is the oldest, more than 3,100 years, when you consider from the Gotama Buddha’s (563 BCE) time, but there were 27 Buddhas before the Gotama Buddha. All the Buddhas originated in northeastern India, which makes Buddhism more than 6,000 years old, or 3,300 BCE, considering 28 Buddhas (i.e., Indus Valley Civilization, 3,300 BCE, which was Buddhist civilization). Buddhism is the way of life and supported by archaeological evidence from Lumbini, an ancient shrine and carbon-dated, along with textual records like the Edicts of Ashoka. 

  

Siddhartha Gotama was not the first Buddha, but the 28th in a lineage of Buddhas who preceded him over countless aeons (kalpas).  Dharmachakra Pravartana: The Buddha's first sermon, in which he set the Wheel of Dharma in motion, is known as the Dharmachakra Pravartana. The Buddha is considered a pravartaka (promoter, set the dhamma in motion) of the Dharmachakra Pravartana (Turning of the Wheel of Dhamma), signifying his role in establishing the path to Nirvana.


Key Evidence for the Age of Buddhism

Archaeological Discoveries: Excavations at the Maya Devi Temple in Lumbini uncovered a 6th-century BCE shrine, including timber postholes for a tree shrine, indicating pre-Asokan activity.


The Edicts of Ashoka: These inscriptions (3rd century BCE) on pillars and rocks are the first tangible, written evidence of Buddhism’s existence, placed by Emperor Ashoka, who spread the Dhamma.


Textual & Historical Records: The First Buddhist Council, held shortly after the Buddha’s death (c. 410–370 BCE), marked the beginning of preserving his teachings.


Stupa Evidence: The Relic Stupa of Vaishali in Bihar, India, considered one of the oldest, matches historical accounts of the Buddha's relics being distributed, with further validation through Ashokan-era additions. 


While traditional dates often cite 566–486 BCE, modern research and archaeological findings suggest a slightly later, or in some cases, earlier, timeframe for the life of the Buddha, with many experts agreeing he lived around the 5th century BCE. 


Pali Canon: While written down later (c. 1st century BCE), philological analysis shows these texts contain archaic syntax and historical data that point to a "true historical memory" from the 4th or 5th century BCE.


Gandharan Manuscripts: Discovered in modern-day Pakistan/Afghanistan, these are the oldest surviving Buddhist manuscripts, dating from the 1st century BCE to the 3rd century CE.


Generally, Buddhists believe there has been a succession of many Buddhas in the distant past and that many more will appear in the future. Dipankara (i.e., Lamp Bearer) Buddha was one of these previous Buddhas. The Buddhavamsa says Dipankara Buddha achieved Nirvana in Nandarama, where a stupa was built thirty six yojanas high. (John S. Strong. 2007. Relics of the Buddha. Princeton University Press. p. 45. ISBN 978-0691117645.)


Chinese Buddhism honors Dipankara as one of many Buddhas of the past. Dipankara is generally represented as a sitting Buddha, but his depictions as a standing Buddha are common in China, Thailand, and Nepal; with the right hand, he generally forms a protection mudra (abhaya mudra), and often he forms it with both hands.


Dipankara is rarely depicted alone; he is generally depicted with two bodhisattvas, Manjusri and Vajrapani (common in Java) or Avalokiteśvara and Vajrapani (common in Sri Lanka), or with the Buddhas who come after him, Gautama and Maitreya.


One of the Buddhas of Bamiyan, destroyed by the Taliban government in Afghanistan in 2001, was said to portray Dipankara. Statues of Dipankara can also be found in the Longmen and Yungang Grottoes in China.


Indus Valley Civilization (IVC): Although the scripts from the Indus Valley Civilization (roughly 3,300 BCE) are far older, they remain undeciphered, meaning the language itself cannot be identified. But the IVC script mostly matches with the Dhammalipi script.


Pali, or Prakrit, was the ancient language that served as a primary, vernacular language of North India during the time of the Buddha (c. 500 BC) It is the sacred, liturgical language of the Theravāda Buddhist canon, known as the Tipitaka. 


Key Details About the Ancient Pali Language

Role in Buddhism: Pali was used by the Buddha to deliver sermons, and it is the language in which the Theravada scriptures (Pali Canon) were recorded, primarily in Sri Lanka during the 1st century BC.


Significance: Pali is the oldest, and it was a spoken vernacular in ancient India. 


Scripts: Pali was originally written in the Dhammalipi (also renamed and called Brahmi) and subsequently written in scripts such as Kharosthi and Aramaic in ancient India. 


Key Facts About Pali

  • The Language of the Buddha: While scholars debate the exact dialect      Siddhartha Gautama spoke, the Theravada tradition maintains that Pali (historically linked to the Magadhi dialect) was the language he used to deliver his sermons.
  • The Pali Canon (Tipitaka): Pali is most famous as the language of the Tipitaka ("Three Baskets"), the earliest and most complete collection of Buddhist scriptures. These texts were preserved orally for centuries before being written down in Sri Lanka around 29 BCE.
  • A "Language of the People": Pali and other Prakrits were vernacular dialects spoken by the common masses. The Buddha specifically encouraged using these local dialects so his teachings would be accessible to everyone.
  • Geographic Spread: Although it originated in North India, Pali became an      international liturgical language, spreading with Buddhism to Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Thailand, Cambodia, and Laos. 


Pali is the original ancient language, which was further refined and later became Sanskrit, but it is generally simpler in its grammar and pronunciation. For example, the Pali word Dhamma becomes Dharma in Sanskrit, and Pali Kamma becomes Karma in Sanskrit. 


The Pali and Prakrit were the vernacular dialects of ancient times. The best known of this group is Pali, which still serves as the canonical language of Buddhism in Sri Lanka and Southeast Asia. Other Prakrit languages such as Sauraseni, Maharastri, Magadhi, and Gandhari embody various facets of the literature of Buddhist traditions.


Pāli is the language of the Tipiṭaka, the Theravāda Buddhist canon, and many later Buddhist works. Pāli is one of the most archaic forms of Indian language attested, alongside the inscriptional material of the 4th century BCE to the 2nd century ACE.


Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit (BHS) is a modern linguistic category applied to the language used in a class of Indian Buddhist texts, such as the Perfection of Wisdom sutras. BHS is classified as an Indian language. It is sometimes called "Buddhist Sanskrit" or "Mixed Sanskrit" and was developed by Buddhist scholars and monks.


According to K. R. Norman, Pāli could also be considered a form of BHS. However, Franklin Edgerton states that Pāli is, in essence, a Prakrit.1 


Some translated works, such as by the Sarvāstivādin school, were completed in classical Sanskrit. There were also later works composed directly in Sanskrit and written in a simpler style than the classical literature, as well as works of kavya in the ornate classical style such as the Buddhacarita.[2]


  1. Edgerton, Franklin. The Prakrit Underlying Buddhistic Hybrid Sanskrit. Bulletin of the School of Oriental Studies, University of London, Vol. 8, No. 2/3, page 502.
  2. T. Burrow. 1965. The Sanskrit language, p. 61, ISBN 978-81-208-1767-8.


After the ancient language Pali, Pakrit, and BHS were refined by Buddhist scholars, and it later became classical Sanskrit. Sanskrit is often falsely described as the oldest language in India​. The reason brahmins give is that Sanskrit is rooted in the fake Vedic Religion (around 1,500 BCE, with no single evidence at all) in the Rigveda, but there is no record or evidence of Vedic religion before or after the Indus Valley Civilization. Also, no single record or evidence of Vedic religion existed before or after the Buddha, or even in Asoka's time period. There is no record or evidence of Sanskrit before the common era (BCE).


In 2007, a specific collection of 30 manuscripts of the Rigveda was officially inscribed into the UNESCO Memory of the World Register. The oldest manuscript was dated 1464, which is preserved at the Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute in Pune, India.  


The Indus Valley Civilization (IVC) is one of the world's oldest urban cultures, and it is closely related to Buddhism. Scholars have identified intriguing cultural and spiritual similarity with Buddhism such as the 4th Buddha’s (Dipankar Buddha) bodhi leaf and pottery.  The  IVC, a Bronze Age culture, thrived roughly between 3,300 BCE and 1,300 BCE, with its mature phase from 2,600–1,900 BCE


Age of the Indus Valley Civilization

  • Traditional Dating: Historically, the "mature" phase of the civilization was dated between 2,600 BCE and 1,900 BCE.
  • Location: Situated in the Indus River basin, it covered parts of modern-day Pakistan, northwest India, and northeast Afghanistan.
  • Key Sites: Major urban centers included Harappa and Mohenjo-daro.
  • Extended Timeline: When including early farming phases (such as Mehrgarh), the civilization's roots stretch back to approximately 3,300–1,300 BCE.
  • Yoga and Meditation: Archaeological finds such as the "Pashupati" seal depict figures in yogic postures, suggesting the roots of meditation—central to Buddhism— existed in the IVC.
  • Ascetic Traditions: Some scholars argue that the Sramana (ascetic) movement, from which Buddhism grew, was an indigenous tradition preserved from the IVC.
  • Symbolic Continuity: Symbols found in IVC artifacts such as the peepal tree (under which the Buddha attained enlightenment), the lotus, and the swastika remain sacred in Buddhism today.
  • The Mohenjo-daro Stupa: Interestingly, a Buddhist stupa was built directly on top of the ruins of Mohenjo-daro, indicating the site remained spiritually significant.
  • Cultural Continuity: Scholars suggest specific practices from the Indus Valley—such as the depiction of figures in meditative (yogic) postures, reverence for trees,      animals, and fertility (similar to the Pashupati seal)—have served as a foundation for elements found in Buddhism.
  • Spiritual Background: The civilization was known to be highly developed spiritually and believed to have contributed to the cultural landscape that later produced Buddhism and Jainism. 


Dhammalipi is the name Emperor Ashoka (3rd century BCE) used in his edicts to refer to his inscriptions. Literally meaning "Inscriptions of the Dhamma," "Writing of the Dhamma," or “Script of Dhamma,” it describes the content and ethical purpose of his messages rather than being a formal name for a linguistic script. It was renamed Brahmi script by 19th-century Western scholars based on references in ancient texts such as the Lalitavistata Sutra, often attributed to the work of Albert Terrien de Lacouperie.


What is the Dhammalipi?

  • Definition: Literally means "script of the Dhamma" or "edict script," used by Emperor Ashoka for his edicts.
  • Purpose: It was used to spread Buddhist principles and edicts across the Indian subcontinent.
  • Significance: It is the earliest widely used script in India, serving as the ancestor of      most modern South Asian, Southeast Asian, and Tibetan scripts.
  • Alternative Name: Some historians argue it was also referred to as Indian Pali in early 19th-century studies. 


The script we now call Brahmi was never referred to by that name in any ancient Indian manuscripts or inscriptions. It was "renamed"—or, more accurately, labeled by modern scholars—for the following reasons: 


Why was it renamed Brahmi Script?

  • 19th Century Scholarship: When British researchers such as James Prinsep   began deciphering the scripts in the 19th century, they needed a name for the script they found on Ashokan pillars, which was no longer in use.
  • 19th-Century Academic Coining: French Indologist Terrien de Lacouperie and      later German scholar Georg Bühler popularized the name "Brahmi" in the late 1800s. They selected it based on lists of ancient scripts found in early religious texts such as the Buddhist Lalitavistara Sutra.
  • The "Lalitavistara" Reference: Scholars found a list of 64 scripts in the Buddhist text Lalitavistara, where 'Brahmi' was listed.
  • Conjecture: French scholar Albert Terrien de Lacouperie and others assigned the name 'Brahmi' to the Ashokan script (which runs left to right), assuming it to be the      one mentioned in the ancient text, a move described as "naming for convenience." Convenience and Hierarchy: Since "Brahmi" (or Bambhi in Prakrit) appeared first      in these ancient lists of 64 or 18 scripts, scholars adopted it as a "convenient" label for the oldest decipherable script of the subcontinent.
  • Acceptance: The term became standard through the work of scholars like Georg Bühler. 
  • Brahmin Mythological Association: The name reflects a traditional misguided belief by Indian Brahmins that the script was created by the god Brahma. This association made the name widely acceptable to Indian Brahmin scholars of the time who held similar religious views. Modern Hindus made Brahma their God later but there is not any Hindu Brahma temple anywhere. 

In Ancient Buddhism, Brahma is considered a high-ranking deity and protector of the teachings of the Buddha, who follows and respects the Buddha.  Archaeological evidence confirms that Brahma exists within Buddhism as a subordinate deity, guardian, or witness to key events in the Buddha's life, rather than as a supreme creator god. In Buddhist archaeology—spanning India, Gandhara, Southeast Asia, and China—Brahma is typically depicted in a secondary role, showing reverence to the Buddha, alongside Indra.


While some scholars and proponents argue the script should be called Dhammalipi to honor its original designation by Ashoka, "Brahmi" remains the commonly used term in academic and historical context.


Modern historians and scholars often argue that Dhammalipi is the more historically accurate name, as it respects Ashoka's original intent. Some view the shift to "Brahmi" as a distortion that obscures the script’s close association with Pali and Ashokan Buddhism.


The 27 Buddhas preceding the Gotama Buddha (Gautama), as recorded in the Pali Canon (Buddhavamsa), begin with Taṇhaṅkara and end with Kassapa, covering several aeons (kalpas). Key evidence includes textual records of lineage, archeological findings (stupas/inscriptions) of previous Buddhas like Kassapa, and records from ancient travelers. 


The 27 Buddhas Before Gotama Buddha (in Chronological Order)
According to the Buddhavamsa and related texts, the 28 Buddhas (aṭṭhavīsatibuddha) culminating in Gotama are: Taṇhaṃkara, Medhaṃkara, Saraṇaṃkara, Dipankara, Koṇḍañña, Maṃgala, Sumana, Revata, Sobhita, Anomadassi, Paduma, Nārada, Padumuttara, Sumedha, Sujāta, Piyadassi, Atthadassi, Dhammadassi, Siddhattha, Tissa, Phussa, Vipassi, Sikhi, Vessabhū, Kakusandha, Koṇāgamana, Kassapa, and Gotama Buddha.


Evidence for Past Buddhas

While many earlier Buddhas are considered legendary or cosmological, there is significant archeological and textual evidence specifically for the most recent predecessors: 


  • Asokan Inscriptions: Emperor Ashoka's Niglihva Pillar Edict (3rd century BCE) records that he enlarged a stupa dedicated to Koṇāgamana Buddha, proving veneration for past Buddhas was established very early in history.
  • Early Buddhist Texts: The Buddhavamsa and Mahapadana Sutta (Digha Nikaya 14) provide the primary scriptural accounts of these lineages, detailing their birthplaces, parentage, and the specific trees under which they attained enlightenment.
  • Stupas and Relics: Ancient sites like Sanchi and Bharhut (c. 100 BCE) feature reliefs depicting the Bodhi trees and symbols of "The Seven Buddhas of the Past" (the six immediate predecessors, plus Gotama).
  • Travel Records: Chinese pilgrims like Faxian and Xuanzang (5th–7th centuries CE) recorded visiting the ruins and stupas of Kakusandha, Koṇāgamana, and Kassapa Buddhas during their travels in India and Nepal.


Dhammo Sanantano (Pali for "Esa Dhammo Sanantano") is a phrase from the Buddhist Dhammapada (Verse 5) meaning "This is the eternal/ancient law" or "This is the timeless truth." It signifies that non-hatred and compassion are the natural, unchanging, and eternal principles of the universe, and it is frequently used to emphasize that hatred is only appeased by love.


What Is Dhammo Sanantano?

  • Origin: The phrase appears in the Dhammapada (Verse 5) of the Pali Canon, spoken      by the Buddha to highlight a core, immutable law of existence.
  • Context: It is used in the phrase: Na hi verena verāni, sammantīdha kudācanaṃ; Averena ca sammanti, esa dhammo sanantano.
  • Translation: "Hatred is never appeased by hatred in this world. By non-hatred alone is hatred appeased. This is a law eternal." 


What It Means (Significance):

  • Eternal/Timeless Truth: It refers to a universal principle that holds true regardless of time, place, or circumstances—it is timeless (akāliko).
  • Natural Law: The term Dhammo indicates the natural order of things, not just religious dogma. Sanantano means ancient or eternal.
  • Ethical Living: It acts as a guiding principle for human behavior, emphasizing that peace, non-violence, and compassion are the foundational laws of human existence.


Dhammo Sanantano is thus a declaration of a fundamental truth: that only through love and understanding (non-hatred) can conflict be resolved and peace maintained, a rule that has always existed. The phrase literally translates to "The Eternal Law" or "Ancient Truth." 


Dhammo (Dhamma): Law, Truth, Cosmic Order, or the Teachings of the Buddha. 


Sanantano: Eternal, ancient, or timeless


This ancient Buddhist word "Dhammo Sanantano" is now used by some Hindus as "Sanatan Dharma" for Hinduism recently because Hindus realized that the Hindu name was originated and given by Persians in 11th Century. The root meaning is geographical, some Persian and Urdu dictionaries such as the (Loghat-e-Kishwari) have historically included secondary, derogatory meanings of Hindu like "slave," "thief", or "black".  Dayanand Saraswati in his writing "Satyarth Prakash" expresses a critical view of the word "Hindu," generally considering it an improper misnomer.  He asserts that the word "Hindu" is of Persian/Muslim origin and does not appear in the Vedas, Upanishads, or the Bhagavad Gita, which were written in classical Sanskrit later but ancient language.


The water dispute between the Sakyas and Koliyas was a near-war conflict over diverting the Rohini River for irrigation during a drought, which the Buddha resolved by arguing that human blood was more valuable than water. The "Great Departure" refers to Siddhartha Gautama renouncing his royal life to find the cause of human suffering. The Great Departure refers to Prince Siddhartha’s decision at age 29 to renounce his royal life, family, and inheritance. 


The Water Dispute (Rohini River Incident)

  • Context: The Sakyas (Kapilavastu) and Koliyas were kinsmen separated by the Rohini River. During a severe drought, both sides needed the remaining water to      save their crops.
  • Escalation: Farmers began arguing, which escalated into accusations, fighting, and the assembly of armies from both sides.
  • The Buddha’s Intervention: The Buddha appeared between the two armies and famously asked the leaders, "Which is more precious, the blood of your people or the water in this river?"
  • Resolution: The Buddha, upon seeing the impending carnage, intervened, appearing above them. He asked if water was more valuable than human life. When the leaders admitted human life was more precious, he instructed them to make      peace, effectively stopping the war. 
  • The Goal: He sought to find the "Deathless" or a permanent end to human suffering.
  • The Act: In the middle of the night, he left the palace on his horse, Kanthaka, and cut his hair to begin the life of a wandering ascetic.


The Great Departure (Mahabhinishkramana) and Becoming a Sage

  • The Cause: Siddhartha Gautama (the Buddha) left his luxurious palace life (The Great Departure) because he witnessed the inevitable suffering of life—sickness, old age, and death—which he realized could not be solved by material wealth or power.
  • The Search for Enlightenment: He became a sage to find a way to transcend suffering, not just for himself, but for all beings. He abandoned a worldly life to seek spiritual truth (Dhamma), eventually achieving enlightenment (Buddhahood). 


The resolution of the water dispute highlighted the Buddha's role as a peacemaker who advocated for non-violence (ahimsa) and rational understanding over petty, destructive conflict.


The Great Departure and Rohini River water dispute are two distinct but profoundly connected events in the life of the Buddha, representing his initial search for truth and his later practical application of wisdom to resolve human conflict.


The Jataka Tales are more than 3,000 years old, with roots in oral traditions from the 5th century BCE and written, artistic evidence dating back to the 3rd–2nd century BCE. Primarily written in Pali, these stories of the Buddha’s previous births were canonized around the 5th century CE, though they circulated much earlier.


  • Origin and Age: The core stories are ancient, likely originating shortly after the Buddha's death (5th century BCE), and were fully compiled into the Jatakatthavannana by the 5th century CE.
  • Written Language: The main collection is written in Pali, a Middle Indo-Aryan language used in Theravada Buddhist scriptures. While parts were written as early as the 4th century BCE, the complete collection was formalized between 300 BCE and 400 CE. The most extensive written version we have today—the Jatakatthavannana—was compiled in the 5th century CE. 
  • Early Evidence: Sculptures depicting Jataka scenes exist on Buddhist      monuments (like Bharhut and Sanchi) dating to the 2nd and 1st centuries BCE.
  • Structure: They consist of 547 poems (verses) considered very old, with accompanying prose commentary added later.
  • Other Versions: Some Jataka stories also appear in early Sanskrit texts like the Mahavastu and Jatakamala. 
  • Main Language: The tales were primarily written and preserved in Pali. Pali was a Middle Indo-Aryan vernacular used as the liturgical language for Theravada Buddhism to record the Buddha’s teachings.
  • Other Early Forms:

                  Prakrit: Early versions were transmitted in various local Indian dialects, or Prakrits.                   Sanskrit: In Northern Buddhist traditions (Mahayana), the tales were also                       composed in Sanskrit, most notably in the Jatakamala by Arya Sura around the 4th                    century CE. 


The question of whether the Buddhist Dasaratha Jataka or the Hindu Valmiki Ramayana is the original and who "copied," which is debated among scholars, with definitive consensus on direct plagiarism. However, academic and historical analysis generally points to the following conclusions:

  • Likely Direction of Influence: While the Dasaratha Jataka (found in the Pali Canon) is one of the earliest documented written versions, it is generally considered by modern scholars to be earlier.
  • Development of the Texts: The Valmiki Ramayana (Sanskrit, not older than Pali)      was likely finalized in writing after early Buddhist (Pali, oldest language) literature. However, the elements of the story in the Jataka (where Boddhisatva Rama and Sita are siblings, no abduction occurs, and they live in the Himalayas) appear to be a re-imagining of a known story to fit Buddhist ideals of renunciation and wisdom (Ramapaṇḍita), rather than the original, more dramatic, narrative of the epic Ramayana later.
  • Dasaratha Jataka: A didactic, simpler story focusing on detachment (equating Rama with the Bodhisattva). Pali (Prakrit) and Dhammalipi are the origin of all languages in India, including Sanskrit, which is developed later from Pali. Jatak Tales are      ancient and found in Asokan inscriptions.
  • Valmiki Ramayana: An epic plagiarized from Jatak Tales and the conflict with Ravana. It is written on paper and in Sanskrit much later. Also, Goswami Tulsidas (Rambola Dubey (11 August 1511 – 30 July 1623)), wrote the Ramacharitmanas      during the Mughal period in India. 


The Ghata Jataka  (Buddhist) and the Mahabharata  (Hindu) share similar storylines regarding Krishna, Kamsa, and Dwarka. The Ghata Jataka was plagiarized by Hindus.

  • Perspective: The Jataka tales (Pali, ancient), which were often narrated in the 6th century BC, predate the written form of the Mahabharata (Sanskrit, not older than Pali).  
  • Buddhist Story: The Ghata Jataka (approximately 3rd century BCE) is widely viewed as a Buddhist and popular legendary story. The story provides a Buddhist moral: The Bodhisattva (appearing as Ghatapandita) consoles a grieving Buddhist Vasudeva (who later became Krishna in the Hindu story) by teaching him about the impermanence of life.


Epic Expansion: The Mahabharata was composed and expanded in the classical Sanskrit language, which came much later, during the Mughal and English period in India, and incorporated these same legends into an epic, which is completely immoral and based on such behavior as a gambling wife and taking the clothes off Draupadi (woman). Classical Sanskrit did not exist in BCE. Also, the epic used many other Jataka tales and expanded the epic. 


The Sāma Jātaka (a Buddhist tale of a devoted son named Sāma who cares for his blind parents) has significant thematic and narrative similarities with the Hindu story of Shravan Kumar from the Ramayana.


Key Similarities 

  • The Narrative: In both stories, a devoted son (Sāma or Shravan) cares for blind parents in a forest. A king (Benares/Dasaratha) hunting in the woods mistakes the son for an animal, shoots him with an arrow, and is subsequently devastated to learn he killed the parents' only support. The Jataka Tales were compiled to show the previous lives of the Buddha, often adapting existing folk legends to emphasize Buddhist virtues like Metta (loving-kindness). 
  • The Ending: The endings differ significantly. In the Buddhist Sāma Jātaka, Indra (a deity) intervenes, reviving Sāma and restoring the parents' sight. In the Hindu Ramayana version, Shravan Kumar dies and his parents curse King Dasaratha to experience "putrashoka" (death due to the loss of a son), which directly causes the later exile of Rama. 


Context on "Copying"

  • Evolution of Tales: While the Jataka tales were written down early, the story of Shravan Kumar exists within the Ramayana and Mahabharata, which are epics written later.
  • Cultural Exchange: It is more accurate to view these stories as examples of Buddhist tales in ancient Indian literature, where the same moral story—highlighting devotion to parents—was adapted from a Buddhist story by Hindus much later. 


Vedic culture (Brahmanism) has no provable evidence, but Hindus claim unprovable textual evidence from the Rig-Veda, composed in roughly 1500–1000 BCE, placing it after the peak of the Indus Valley Civilization. Evidence does not exist. There is no evidence of linguistic, archaeological, or ritualistic findings in Northern India during the late Bronze Age/early Iron Age period, prior to and concurrent with the Buddha. In fact, the Buddha is mentioned 76 times in the Rig-Veda. Hindus believe the Rig-Veda is their oldest written document. The Rig-Veda is written in classical Sanskrit, which is not ancient language.

  • No Evidence Before the Buddha (1500–600 BCE): As Hindus claim, the Vedic      period (roughly 1500–600 BCE) corresponds with the development of early      Brahmanical ideology in the Kuru kingdom, with the Rig-Veda providing primary literary evidence of the religious, social, and cultural life of this time. There is no proof of the Kuru kingdom, pottery, and language. Rig-Veda, which is claimed by Hindus as the oldest Veda, was written in 1464 in classical Sanskrit. The Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit (mixed Sanskrit) was developed by Buddhist scholars and monks. The BHS developed and became classical Sanskrit much later.
  • No Evidence of Existence/Archaeology: The Indus Valley Civilization (IVC) was      an urban and maritime civilization. The Hindus claim that the Vedic culture's material existence is supported by archaeological finds in the Saraswati River Basin (3300-1300 BCE), which indicates a largely rural, pastoral, and iron-using society. But there is no evidence of a Saraswati River Basin civilization. Also, Sarasvati is used as a deity goddess and as a river, which does not make any sense. Another myth Hindus      cannot answer is how the society became rural and pastoral. The IVC knew how to construct buildings and drainage systems, so why would society go backward (i.e., living in huts in a rural, nomadic society as Hindu Vedic culture claims? It shows illogical ideology, and Vedic culture never existed.
  • Textual and Oral Evidence: Hindus claim that the Vedas (Rig, Sama, Yajur, Atharva) were orally transmitted for centuries before being written down. One needs to have a language to speak to transmit the Vedas, but where is the evidence of the language to transmit the philosophical, ritualistic, and cultural framework of Brahmanism? Again, the Vedas were written in classical Sanskrit, which did not exist in BCE. Also, the language was developed by Buddhist scholars and monks.
  • At the Time of the Buddha: Hindus claim the Pali Canon (early Buddhist texts) frequently mention Brahmins and refers to the Vedas. The Buddha’s reference to Vaman (Brahmana) was Buddhist Arhant or Buddhist monks but not caste or Vedic Brahmans. The word Veda and Vedanā in Buddhism refer to the immediate "feeling-tone" or sensation—pleasant, unpleasant, or neutral—that arises when sense organs      contact objects. It is a foundational component of experience, not an emotion, serving as the link between sensory input and craving. The Buddha did not talk about caste system or Vedic culture anywhere. The caste system never existed at the time of Buddha, and there was no active presence of Vedic culture in the Gangetic plain when the Buddha was alive.
  • Myth: While the mythological Vedas contain hymns to gods and philosophical speculations interpreted by some as mythological, they functioned as the foundation for the social structure (caste/varna) and ritual practices that characterized early Brahmanism during the Mughal period in India.
  • The Mitanni Treaty (c. 1,380 BCE) in modern-day Syria invokes Vedic gods like      Indra, Mitra, and Varuna, as Hindus claim. But the truth is that Inder, Miter, and Varuna were Pali words for a Buddhism deity found in Mitanni Treaty and had nothing to do with Hindus. Much later, Hindus created their own deity in Sanskrit. 


There is no evidence supporting a caste system at the time of Buddha and emperor Asoka. Nowhere is a society stratified by Jati (birth/lineage). Brahmins did not exist before 850 ACE. Buddha never debated with Brahmins. Brahmins wrongly describe “the Vaman” as Brahmin. There were Vaman and Saman (both were Buddhist monks) at the time of the Buddha.


Megasthenes' Indica (310 BCE): The Greek ambassador Megasthenes recorded seven social classes in India (philosophers, farmers, soldiers, herdsman-shepherds, artisan, military, overseers (mail person), and karmachary (council of assessors)), rather than the four Hindu Varnas. This suggests social identity was more closely tied to profession than to the religious Varna or birth-based framework at that time.


Ashoka’s Edicts: Ashoka’s inscriptions on rocks and pillars provide no caste system or birth-based hierarchical order.


The first five disciples of the Buddha—Kondanna, Braddiva, Vappa, Mahanama, and Assaji (the Pancavaggiya)—were closely associated with Buddha's upbringing and Sakya clan, acting as his guardians and peers rather than Brahmanical mentors. They were sent by King Suddhodana to protect the Buddha. These five were not Brahmins. Also, there was no warrior caste (Kshatriya), and the Kshatriya caste did not exist at the time because there was no caste system (i.e., no Brahmin, no Kshatriya). This was wrongly propagated by Brahmins in their books and Indian historical literature written by Brahmins. 


There was no Vedic Sanskrit or classical Sanskrit in BCE. After the ancient language Pali, Pakrit, Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit (BHS) was refined by Buddhist scholars and later became classical Sanskrit. Sanskrit is often falsely described as the oldest language in India​. Ashoka’s Dhamma Lipi (script) evolved to the Devanagari alphabet, which is the alphabet of classical Sanskrit. Classical Sanskrit does not have its own script or alphabet. All Hindu or Brahmin Vedic culture and literature were written in classical Sanskrit during Mughal and British rule in India, which is not ancient. 


The Rig-Veda is not ancient. There is no supporting evidence to prove it is ancient. In 2007, a specific collection of 30 manuscripts of the Rig-Veda was officially inscribed into the UNESCO Memory of the World Register. The oldest manuscript was dated 1464, which is preserved at the Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute in Pune, India. 


The Valmiki Ramayana is the original. Many other versions exist in regional languages, such as the 16th-century Ramcharitmanas by Tulsidas. 


There is no evidence of Vedic Brahmanism or a caste system during Buddhist King Harshavardhan's (606-647 ACE) reign. Pala Vansha (8th century) rule provides no evidence of a caste system. After 850 ACE, Buddhism divided and became Saivism (Shiva) and Vaishnavism (Vishnu) and Shakti (goddesses), which are part of Hinduism now.


After 700 ACE, Mahayana Buddhism was changing and branching out as Vajrayana, Tantrayana, Saivism, and Vaishnavism. The Saiva and Vaishnava pantha further divided into Ramananda pantha, Tulsi pantha, Arya samaj, Gayatri samaj, etc. with a caste system. Saiva pantha was founded by Adisankar, who was born in 788 ACE in Kerala, India. Buddha statues were called Shiva linga (phallus). The idea of Buddha as a Shiva Linga represents a deep syncretism in Vajrayana Buddhism, especially in Nepal, where Buddhist stupas and deities are integrated with Shiva Linga symbolism. Another absurdity: “The Buddha was integrated into Vaishnavism (Vaishnava Puranas), where the Buddha is considered as the ninth avatar of Vishnu."


The Buddhist Jakata is copied by Brahman’s the Hindu Ramayana, written by Tulsi Das (Rambola Dwivedi, Banaras, 1511-1623) Ramacharithmanas, Mughal period. Brahman created the caste system, Devdasi system, sati system, human sacrifice, animal sacrifice, child marriage, etc. during the Mughal period. Hindus claim that Hinduism is an ancient religion, but in Vedic History, there is no evidence of a ruler, coin, script or lipi, traveler writings, etc. The oldest script of Rig-Veda was from 1464 ACE (UNESCO). Hindus claim that Rig-Veda was the oldest and written on paper.  The most renowned and authoritative classical commentator (Bhasyakar) of the Rig Veda is Sayana (14th century), whose comprehensive commentary, the Madhaviya Vedaartha Prakasha, is essential for understanding the Vedas.  The oldest surviving manuscripts of the Rigveda date from the 11th to 15th centuries CE. These early birch bark and paper manuscripts are housed in collections like the Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute, which holds a 15th-century manuscript included in UNESCO's Memory of the World Register.


The Vedas, Upanishads, Ramayan, Gita, and Mahabharta are written in Nagari script in classical Sanskrit on paper. All these were written during the Muslim period after 1,000 ACE and the English period. Ramayan, Gita, and Mahabharta were copied from the Buddhist Jatak Katha. The Buddhist Ghata Jataka story was copied in the Hindu epic Mahanbharata, written in Sanskrit during the Mughal-English period. 


In short, during Mughal and British rule, Brahmins copied all the tales from the Jataka Katha, as well as Buddhist icons. They also integrated Hindu gods and deities such as Buddha (Mahadeva) as Shiva or Shiva linga (Saivism), Buddha as the ninth incarnation of Vishnu (Vaishnavism), Rama in Ramayana from Dasarath Jakata Tale’s Bodhisattva Rama, Krishna from Ghata Jatak tale Buddha (Vasudeva), Hanuman (Monkey God) from Marut Mahakappi (Great Apes) Jatak Tales, and female goddess like Laxmi, Kali, etc. from Buddhist deities (female Buddhist icons).


Megasthenes' Indica (310 BCE) famously and explicitly mentions only the Buddha (as Boutta), but no other deity or god in ancient India.  


Chinese scholars Fa-Hien, Hiuen Tsang, and I-Tsing did not mention Vedic/Brahmin culture because there was no Vedic/Brahmin culture in India at that time. They spent numerous years in India studying and collecting Mahayana Buddhist scriptures and visiting sacred sites. As devout Buddhist monks, their travelogues focused on the Buddhist monasteries, the life of Buddha, and the state of the religion. They spent most of their time at major Buddhist centers like Nalanda and Vikramshila. Buddhism was the religion in India during their visits (4th–7th centuries).


Faxian, Xuanzang, and Yijing were among hundreds of Chinese monks who made pilgrimages to India during the first millennium CE. The detailed accounts of their journeys make them more famous than others.


Actually, the claim that these travelers did not mention Vedic or Brahmin culture is inaccurate. While their primary mission was to study Buddhism and collect Sanskrit manuscripts, their travelogues provide significant details about the social and religious landscape of ancient India.


Al-Beruni’s India (Kitab-ul-Hind) describes Sanskrit as the primary, cultivated language of India, noting its complex grammar. Sanskrit was described as an "adorned" or "purified" language. In his 11th-century treatise, Tahqiq-i-Hind (commonly known as Al-Beruni’s India), the Persian scholar Al-Beruni discusses the sophisticated development of Indian linguistics, focusing primarily on Sanskrit. Al-Beruni himself mastered Sanskrit during his 13-year stay to translate scientific and philosophical texts.


Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit was developed by Buddhist scholars and monks. Al-Beruni mentioned a list of grammarians, including Panini, on the list among the Buddhist scholars. 


In Buddhism, Devas  (literally "shining ones") are non-physical, long-lived celestial beings residing in higher realms within the cycle of rebirth (saṃsāra), characterized by immense power and pleasure, but they are not immortal gods or creators. While Buddhism acknowledges these divine beings, it rejects the existence of an omnipotent creator God. While sometimes acting as guardians of the Dhamma, they are not worshipped as saviors, and Buddhism focuses on self-liberation, not reliance on deva intervention. Buddhism does not accept a supreme creator God who designed the universe. Devas are considered, like humans, to be distinct individuals with their own paths to enlightenment, and they are not manifestations of a single, all-powerful deity. They do not create the world or govern its natural laws; they are as subject to cause and effect as humans. 


Nontheism and Atheism: While Buddhism is "atheistic" regarding a personal creator, it is not "materialistic." It acknowledges countless supernatural beings and higher realities (like Nirvana or Buddha-nature).   


Buddhists believe in realms of heaven (deva) and hell (naraka) as temporary, impermanent states of mind within the cycle of samsara, not as eternal destinations. Many Buddhist interpretations emphasize that heaven and hell are also reflections of present mental states, such as joy or intense suffering/anger. 


No, Bhagwan is not equivalent to the concept of a creator God in Buddhism. While Bhagavān (Blessed One/Lord) is used in Buddhist texts to refer to the Buddha, Buddhism rejects the notion of an omnipotent, eternal creator deity. Buddha is considered a human who achieved supreme enlightenment, not a divine creator. In Buddhist Pali and Sanskrit scriptures, Bhagavān is a title for the Buddha, often translated as "The Blessed One" or "Lord." Buddhism does not believe in a creator God; devas (gods) exist in Buddhist cosmology but are not eternal or creators. The Buddha is viewed as a guide, not a god to be worshipped for salvation, and is considered superior to the heavenly deva realm.


In Buddhism, Bhagavan (Pali: Bhagavā) is not equivalent to the monotheistic "God" found in Abrahamic religions. While the word is often translated into English as "Lord" or "the Blessed One," its Buddhist application differs fundamentally from the concept of a creator or eternal deity. In Buddhist texts, Bhagavan is a title used for the Buddha, signifying "one who possesses fortune" or "The Blessed One." It identifies him as an enlightened being who has conquered suffering and ignorance, rather than a divine being who created the world.


While Buddhism acknowledges the existence of gods (devas), they are seen as beings trapped in the cycle of rebirth (samsara) and are not eternal. The Buddha is often called Devatideva ("God of Gods") because his enlightenment places him above even the highest deities in the hierarchy of wisdom and liberation.



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